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PostSubject: Transport   Transport EmptySat Jun 12, 2010 9:48 am

This thread is about transport in Hull and East Yorkshire.
First thing is a reminder that sunday is the East Coast Run from East Park to Bridlington(limekiln car park)There will be old buses,cars and motorbikes in East Park to see before they leave at about 11 on their run to Brid,where they can be seen again in that car park.
Trolleybuses.I used to live at the terminus of th 63 and used to catch one into town.They ran every 3 minutes and had far better acceleration than petrol buses.
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptySat Jun 12, 2010 10:25 am

Trolleybuses I remember very well. I can never see why they were abandoned in favour of diesel buses. The trolleybus was pollution-free and very quiet and, short of a power outage throughout the system, practically unstoppable. Mind you they were a bit too silent sometimes and many a time I have been almost run over when I was a nipper because I was not paying attention when I was larking (another good Hull expression[different thread])about with my mates.
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptySat Jun 12, 2010 1:30 pm

I think they were abandoned beacuse Hull grew beyond the termanii.63 stopped at Endke Lane,but HNE grew beyond that.Same with the 64 that stopped at Ings Road,and Longhill and Bilton Grange grew beyond that/Gypsiville grew beyond the 71.New deisel busses could extend the routes into all the new estates.
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptySat Jun 12, 2010 7:59 pm

I never thought of that explanation, barrow. I suppose it was cheaper to go over to motor buses than to extend the overhead electrics into the new estates. I still think it is a shame that they didn't run two systems side by side but I suppose there were impracticabilities inherent in that sort of plan.
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptySun Jun 13, 2010 4:34 am

Bradford also had trolleybuses and we were lucky enough to be on a trolley route. They were far superior to the diesel buses. We tended to look down on the poor souls who were relegated to the noisy, bumpy, smelly diesels. The wiring could surely have been extended wherever necessary in Hull. I actually come from Thornton, (birthplace of the Brontes, by the way!) which is right on the city boundary at the Keighley/Halifax side, about four or five miles from the city centre. It's uphill all the way, as you are climbing into the Pennines at that point. The trolleys managed it effortlessly.
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptySun Jun 13, 2010 10:39 am

As they did in Huddersfield running up may steep hills.
A pity that no Hull trolley buses were preserved in Hulls transport museum/The British Trolleybus Society wanted to buy a Coronaton trolley bus,but Hull City Council said no.They were all scrapped.
Good book on Hull trolleybuses is published by Middleton Press.There are also some DVD available.
But where did the 66 go to?
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 9:56 am

Blast! Whistle-chuff-scrape-chuff-rattle-clunk-clunk-clunk-wheel-wheel-wheel-scrape-huff n puff n huff n puff-wheel!

"Ray!" "What?" "Where?" "Tony!" "This way! No not that!" "Come on!" "Pete!" "Wait!"

Wheel-scrape-scrape-clunk-clink-clink-clink-clunk!

"Tony!" "Now! Now!" Points-man, "Ahoy there you silly beggars!" Brakeman, "Watch-out! Mind th'sens! Damned youngens!"

Wheel-wheel-wheel-thump-thump-thump-thump-wheel-scrape-wheel-wheel-chuff-spit-chuff n spatter-chuff-blast-clung-clung-clunk!

Through n safe to Prinny Dockside water's edge, to gawp at C D Holmes'

Sizzle-flash-flash-spume mutter-flash-flash. Grind-spark-grind-flame-bang-bang bang-bang-flame-spark-flash-flash-flash.

"Below!" Splash! "OK!" Bang-bang-bang-bang!

God, I can still smell it. Oil, rope, cast iron, steel, ozone n leathers. Wagons always on the move... Som't always going some where. Ships for build n ships for repair. Places to be n places to go!

Now?

Tables, parasols, chairs, coffee n tea. Sit th'sen down lad! 'Ave a cuppa, while herself looks through 'er list n lists of lists. Then on, but into a different kind of motley this.

Come on ol' fella! Can I come past? Scuse me! Hey granddad!

Bairns pushing bairns. Prams-wheels squeal n patter-patter-patter. Noises yes, but changed and muted and somehow? More frantic!

They're all so young, but going nowhere!
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptyWed Jun 16, 2010 1:53 pm

I take that as railways along Princess Dock Side and now the cafes along there.Good post though whatever it means.
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PostSubject: A Homage to Colombo   Transport EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 5:11 am

Barrow, does it work, when reading the above out loud and listening to the sounds of the words?

Come then, look within and way back, using a fond mind's eye, gently coached by words chosen from our excellent friend Colombo,

"A 9400 Class 0-6-0 Pannier tank 9407 shunting wagons" (not from the coaling plant at Didcot’s shed but along Princes-Dock-Side). "A tapered boiler shunting class, designed by the last C.M.E. of the Great Western, F.W. Hawksworth, and introduced in 1947. They were still being built some years after nationisation." Ah the man knew his Locomotives! The sound and smell of heavy work from man and machine was slap bang-bang-bang-bang in the midst of this great city's centre. Her big heart beating with good hard and honest work.
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptyFri Jun 18, 2010 1:15 pm

I never saw trains shunting along Princess Dock Side but remenber wagons shunted by a tractor with a big buffer at the front.
Clink sup clink.Me having a pint outside Minerva.
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 4:12 am

Barrow, nice one.

Mike, what about Colombo's great photos? I copied n pasted them, but wonder what to do next? And what about all your "Where am I Photos n commentaries, are they lost?
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 5:52 am

I saved all my stuff from thisisyourmail, I intend to open a website with virtual history tours of Hull. If you have Colombo's material, why don't you add it on to a photo hosting site such as flickr, webtimes, or something similar and post a link or thread on here.
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PostSubject: Colombo's Photos of Locomotives   Transport EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 11:37 am

Mike, I do not own these photos. They are someone else's property. I am wary of contacting a grieving widow without a proper introduction. Also some of the photos were offered by Colombo and were then included in a published book, "The Day of the Holiday Express’ by Richard Woodley, and published by Ian Allen". I have to respect copyright and there will be a tangle, I warrant, if I am not careful. Please advise!
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptySat Jun 19, 2010 12:13 pm

AR-Tony wrote:
Mike, I do not own these photos. They are someone else's property. I am wary of contacting a grieving widow without a proper introduction. Also some of the photos were offered by Colombo and were then included in a published book, "The Day of the Holiday Express’ by Richard Woodley, and published by Ian Allen". I have to respect copyright and there will be a tangle, I warrant, if I am not careful. Please advise!

I think you're okay as far as copyright is concerned if you don't gain financially and acknowledge the photographer. I used one of Colombo's pics on another railway board but got his permission to do so first. Of course, being the all round good bloke that he was he gave permission without hesitation.
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptySun Jun 20, 2010 3:20 am

I still have the contact details of Michael Lake, and will try to contact the family this week. I had the pleasure of meeting both him and his lovely wife at Carnegie Heritage Centre shortly before his death. They were both really nice and his passing was a great loss, but I know back then he was interested in saving the collection and doing something worthwhile with it.
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptyMon Jun 21, 2010 10:04 am

in the sky today over Hessle,there were four vapour trails.All were U shaped.It would seem as four different planes came from the west,did a U turn,and went back west again! Anyone know why?
and don't say that as many folks in Hull smoke,there was an "ash" cloud over Hull!
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptyMon Jun 21, 2010 4:37 pm

Maybe war games?
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 12:46 am

Question Does anyone remember those triangular shaped little three wheeler lorries,they diddnt look strong enough to pull a load of feathers,but my god did they keep on pulling tons after tons of of fish,coal ect and never seemed to be off the road,just kept on going,rossfish had modern bedfords (with four wheels) and they were always breaking down,meanwhile the three wheeler was going as strong as ever Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 1:21 am

And there was the milkman,with the milk float which was battery powered,the milk-man would walk in front of it holding a long lever which they used to stop and start and steer it,ill bet they thought all their birthdays had come at once when the sit and drive floats arrived Laughing



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PostSubject: Re: Transport   Transport EmptyFri Jul 02, 2010 1:48 am

I well remember British Railways having some strange articulated three-wheelers carrying goods around the back of Paragon Station and they were amazing little machines which could pull enormous loads around with ease.
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